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Topic: Doubleclick on Tab bar: show contactlist, Started by ewerybody  (Read 2008 times) Search this topic *
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Currently a doubleclick on the tab bar of the message window hides/shows the window title bar.. hmm. Don't know why that but I had another idea for that event borrowed from the firefox tab interface:
there a doubleclick on the tabbar creates another tab to browse a website.

So here in tabSRMM another tab is a new conversation that is created if you doubleclick or enter a contact. For this the you need the contactlist. ergo : doubleclick tabbar opens contactlist.

Maybe even at the cursor position! (via option)
And it could also hide the conteclist after the conversation is opened!
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No and no.

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why no?
I think its a cool Idea. And its intuitiv.
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I don't like it. That's why I said "no".

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unbelievable!

I mean... I know a lot of projects. Everywhere they're craving for bug reports and suggestions. This is the first place I feel like I'm talking to a wall :'(

I really don't want to offend you. I definitily love that plugin! I admire your work!
Isn't this board about to make it even better???
But if you just block off everything, why are you still posting here? Why not closing everything and leave it like it is?

Is there really some posts that affected you to make up your mind and do something at the plugin?
show me. :confused:
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Is there really some posts that affected you to make up your mind and do something at the plugin?
show me. :confused:

About 80% of the features are based onto feature requests from users. Need to know more?

Request something which actually makes sense and it might be implemented. But for now, you only request things based on your *personal preferences* or things you want to see implemented because you got used to them by using another software (Gaim in that case) - nothing spectacular, nothing which actually improves overall quality or usability.

For example, you want to make me change the hotkey for a feature which already exists only because you don't like the hotkey. Doesn't make sense, imho. Same for double clicking a tab to show the contact list - for what? Only because a webbrowser (completely UNrelated to a instant messenger btw.) does something similar? And what has the contact list to do with the message window, not to say that there are 100 better ways to do that in Miranda.

Sorry, but these requests make me shake my head.
« Last Edit: October 26, 2006, 16:57:52 by Nightwish »

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Honstly. You don't seem to understand what usability is. ;)

I don't wanted you to change a hotkey! I wanted you to connect one functionality that is already implemented with another. In that case to use the "show last unread"-functionality to be on the usual "show next tab"-hotkey IF there are unread tabs AND IF you already are in the window. Thats not changing a hotkey. Thats enhancing functionality.

Yea I got used to some things. Of course I got! Because things are cool that way. And they are implemented somewhere else because people wanted it that way. In my mind I'd love to have all apps work like you don't have to thing about it... use it like you always knew it! :)

You implemented that double click tab-bar to toggle title bar! Say how productive is this?? Creating a new tab on this event whould be much more logically. And if you don't like it: make it an option. (thats also why I went away from gaim: they reduced customizing a lot. Here at miranda you can change anything, I like that)
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Honstly. You don't seem to understand what usability is. ;)

And you have no idea what you are talking about someone you don't know. If that's your opinion, stop wasting my and, more importantly, your own time and move on.

To me, it seems you are simply frustrated, because I deny implementing your own personal preferences into my plugin and don't like to make it work like some other piece of software you are used to. Arguing about such matter is ridiculous, because none of your arguments have anything to do with improved usability.
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I don't like it. That's why I said "no".
When it comes to arguing you seem to be the queen of eloquence.

Especially this one here is not my personal preference! I don't know what browser you use. But at firefox doubleclicking the tab-bar is creating a new tab. Thats it! Its not an idea by me. It is there in firefox because people (NOT ME) wanted it there this way! And to my mind it has proven! Its a cool feature.

My idea (emphasizing idea!!) is just to make it similar to the firefox feature.

So what is your argument for the current doubleclick tab bar event?

Telling me that none of my ideas has anything to do with improved usability is a slap in face. Its my profession. At least a part of it. You don't know me as well.
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I don't like it. That's why I said "no".
When it comes to arguing you seem to be the queen of eloquence.

You seem failing to realize, that this is:

1) my project
2) my time
3) my way of doing things.

So whatever I do, say or not want to do or like - the final decision is my own, because I'am actually the person who would need to waste time to implement features which I don't like or need.

Read the GPL and think about the "This software is provided as is.." statement.

You don't have to agree with me in all these points, but then - don't use this software? So hard to understand?

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My idea (emphasizing idea!!) is just to make it similar to the firefox feature.

And I don't like it. I don't even like (and ever use it) in firefox aswell. I use the hotkey to create an empty window. Creating an *empty* message window is completely pointless and showing the contact list is unintuitive. There are better solutions, like I already said. tabSRMM has a favorite feature which allows you to quickly open a message window for your favorite contacts and there is a plugin which even allows you to open a msg window for specific contacts with a single (global) hotkey.

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Telling me that none of my ideas has anything to do with improved usability is a slap in face. Its my profession. At least a part of it. You don't know me as well.

I'am not the one who started to argue and I'am not the one who started to insult. Go figure.

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I was arguing because you constantly seem to overread parts and missunderstand.

Yes and Its your board, that invites me as a user to post ideas for improvements. So is it all just about getting ideas for things that you'd like?!
I think there are already a lot of functions that even you never use! What doesn't mean its cool to implement more of those ;)

yeaaa.. pardon me about that "eloquence queen" and "usability don't know" :-\
Its just a pity to post ideas and can't read any single good response word about it. As I said: I know a lot of projects. And I know our programmers saying "No!". But I never ever felt so blocked and shooed.

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Yes and Its your board, that invites me as a user to post ideas for improvements. So is it all just about getting ideas for things that you'd like?!

Nope. Because if that would be the case, tabSRMM wouldn't even have things like avatars or skinning (features I don't need in a chat window, for example). And I guess, a lot of other features would be missing aswell.

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I think there are already a lot of functions that even you never use! What doesn't mean its cool to implement more of those ;)

1. Because I see no valid improvements in these things - already explained why.
2. Because people are used to the way it works now. If I change it, you may like it more but others will complain why I changed it, because they don't like the new functionality. Which implies, that I will have to add more options to make the behaviour customizable. Now, I think that these things are not important enough to add code and even more settings (there really are already enough).

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Honstly. You don't seem to understand what usability is. ;)

I don't wanted you to change a hotkey! I wanted you to connect one functionality that is already implemented with another. In that case to use the "show last unread"-functionality to be on the usual "show next tab"-hotkey IF there are unread tabs AND IF you already are in the window. Thats not changing a hotkey. Thats enhancing functionality.

Yea I got used to some things. Of course I got! Because things are cool that way. And they are implemented somewhere else because people wanted it that way. In my mind I'd love to have all apps work like you don't have to thing about it... use it like you always knew it! :)

You implemented that double click tab-bar to toggle title bar! Say how productive is this?? Creating a new tab on this event whould be much more logically. And if you don't like it: make it an option. (thats also why I went away from gaim: they reduced customizing a lot. Here at miranda you can change anything, I like that) and I need a Relpy back
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