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Started by Nightwish, June 12, 2005, 16:33:17

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#26
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June 21, 2005, 16:26:35
I would be bitching a lot more if I didn't have other ways of reading the status message (NewStatusNotify & mToolTip for two). Sometimes a contact changes status message to say where he or she is going, right before they're leaving, and I want to be able to read what it says right then, that's my only problem. But it's not a problem.
#27
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June 21, 2005, 16:39:53
I would be bitching a lot more if I didn't have other ways of reading the status message (NewStatusNotify & mToolTip for two). Sometimes a contact changes status message to say where he or she is going, right before they're leaving, and I want to be able to read what it says right then, that's my only problem. But it's not a problem.

Just to make sure: The tabSRMM timer doesn't affect other plugins. You can still read the status msg with mtooltip or another plugin, even if you read it in the message window 10 seconds before.

The timer only affects the tooltip - it's also there to avoid possible problems with "infinite" loops.

While playing with this stuff, I discovered an interesting bug which results in a complete hang of the operating system (no bluescreen, just frozen until you reset). It basically happens with 2 miranda clients running on the same machine (but also works, with one miranda and one other client - qip for example) and requesting the status message very often (often, in that case, means, a few thousand times per *second*). The problem seems to be related to the SP2 firewall, because, on another maching running SP1 w/o firewall, it just crashed miranda).
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#28
Re: No development/release for another few days... |
June 21, 2005, 17:57:04
I would be bitching a lot more if I didn't have other ways of reading the status message (NewStatusNotify & mToolTip for two). Sometimes a contact changes status message to say where he or she is going, right before they're leaving, and I want to be able to read what it says right then, that's my only problem. But it's not a problem.

Just to make sure: The tabSRMM timer doesn't affect other plugins. You can still read the status msg with mtooltip or another plugin, even if you read it in the message window 10 seconds before.

Yeah, I knew that. :) That's why I said it's really not a problem.

While playing with this stuff, I discovered an interesting bug which results in a complete hang of the operating system (no bluescreen, just frozen until you reset). It basically happens with 2 miranda clients running on the same machine (but also works, with one miranda and one other client - qip for example) and requesting the status message very often (often, in that case, means, a few thousand times per *second*). The problem seems to be related to the SP2 firewall, because, on another maching running SP1 w/o firewall, it just crashed miranda).

That's freaky. Kind of like that line of HTML code that crashed a whole lot of computers a week ago or something, with Win XP and IE or Firefox. Don't remember any URL. Or maybe that was worse, but anyway.
#29
Re: No development/release for another few days... |
June 21, 2005, 18:56:36
you mean the one described here
http://channel9.msdn.com/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=79311

that's an evil one
there is another mirror in the 4th page there

of course there is nothing in common between using 2 clients +asking for a status msg a few thousand times per sec and entering a website...
#30
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June 21, 2005, 19:02:12
you mean the one described here
http://channel9.msdn.com/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=79311

of course there is nothing in common between using 2 clients +asking for a status msg a few thousand times per sec and entering a website...

This is the GDI problem which is, as far as I know, related to the video card driver in use. Basically, it's a memory allocation problem, and yes, it's evil but in no way related to the issue I found.

I was never able to reproduce the problem with the bluescreen when trying to open an *extremley* larg <img src link, but for many people, it worked and crashed windows hard.

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#31
Re: No development/release for another few days... |
June 22, 2005, 02:51:47
Me neither actually... and yeah of course these two issues aren't related, in any other way than that they hang Windows.
#32
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June 22, 2005, 16:35:35
Will the next release take much longer ? ;D
I'm asking because i want to check that hotkey thing i was talking about a while back and i'd like to start working on it after you release the new version.
#33
Re: No development/release for another few days... |
June 22, 2005, 16:43:58
Will the next release take much longer ? ;D
I'm asking because i want to check that hotkey thing i was talking about a while back and i'd like to start working on it after you release the new version.

Nope. It won't take long. I've still found a few minor issues to correct, but the "big picture" is fairly complete.
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#34
Re: No development/release for another few days... |
June 22, 2005, 17:28:47
Maybe we'll get a 0.1.0.0 version for tabSRMM's first birthday... :D it's in a month... ;D
#35
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June 22, 2005, 20:29:55
Maybe we'll get a 0.1.0.0 version for tabSRMM's first birthday... :D it's in a month... ;D
TabSRMM is past version 0.1.0.0
Currently at 0.9.9.95 PRE

I think you mean 1.0.0.0
Or would it just be called 1.0 ?
#36
Re: No development/release for another few days... |
June 22, 2005, 20:41:00
TabSRMM is past version 0.1.0.0
Currently at 0.9.9.95 PRE

I think you mean 1.0.0.0
Or would it just be called 1.0 ?
Whatever...

Actually I checked the changelog file and there never was a 0.1.0.0 version... there was 0.0.9.5 and next, out of the sudden, was 0.9.9.0... ;D
#37
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June 23, 2005, 20:33:41
can't wait any longer  ;)
#38
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June 23, 2005, 21:01:26
I just found the tooltip for sending typing notifications. So there *is* a tooltip for typing notifications for the unicode version after all :)
The rectangle in which it shows is off though, i can only get it to show it the left top side of the icon, whereas the tooltip for sounds shows anywhere on the sound icon. Looks like the rectangle is a whee bit small :)
#39
Re: No development/release for another few days... |
June 25, 2005, 13:53:43
hello,

I was wondering, since the release of this new build is taking considerably longer than previously expected, would any of you building from CVS care to share builds with the rest of us? I'd love to try it out, the new features and layout of the chat window look wonderful.
#40
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June 25, 2005, 23:46:17
#41
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June 26, 2005, 02:34:23
Much appreciated, Lokke :)
#42
Re: No development/release for another few days... |
June 26, 2005, 14:52:43
So the CVS version is safe to use?
#43
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June 26, 2005, 15:29:12
#44
Re: No development/release for another few days... |
June 26, 2005, 15:47:48
So the CVS version is safe to use?

Usually it is. You should however expect minor problems or sometimes unfinished new code.

Also, I'am not going to comment bug reports for cvs builds, because, in many cases, an issue which appears to be a bug might very well be just unfinished code.
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Last Edit: June 26, 2005, 15:56:19 by Nightwish